Archive for January, 2010

China to send military medical team to quake-hit Haiti from china-defense-mashup.com

Saturday, January 23rd, 2010

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China to send military medical team to quake-hit Haiti(Xinhua)Updated: 2010-01-23 01:09http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/2010-01/23/content_9365281.htmBEIJING: The Chinese government has decided to send a military medical team to quake-hit Haiti at the request of the United Nations, a Defense Ministry spokesperson said here Friday. China to send military medical team to quake-hit Haiti Major
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New J-10 regiments from china-pla.blogspot.com

Friday, January 22nd, 2010

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Today, I saw on Scramble’s plaaf orbat that a new J-10 regiment is getting formed in the 7th division replacing an old J-7 unit. A while ago, we saw this comment left by a “big shrimp” type of poster on Chinese forums.
1,2,3,18,29堪称五虎猛将
9,14,19,33,44算是一品带刀侍卫
6,7,12,21,24可谓卧虎藏龙
15,30,37即将东山再起……
Basically, he listed 4 groups of plaaf divisions. the first group of 1,2,3,18,29 are considered to be the elite divisions. It’s a little confusing, because I’ve never considered 29th to be that way. The second group of 9,14,19,33,44 are considered to be the second level of plaaf division and they all already have a 3rd generation fighter jet of flanker or J-10s. The third group of 6, 7, 12, 21, 24 can be described as “crouching tiger, hidden dragon”. They are starting to equip 3rd generation fighters. The final group of 15, 30, 37 may also get 3rd generation fighters.

Before we go on, I think it’s important to point out several important facts:

  • J-6s are retired from PLAAF
  • The J-7 production finished in 2008 and the final batch was delivered to PLAAF in early 2009
  • J-10s have been replacing J-7 regiments and J-11s have mostly been replacing J-8 regiments and older J-11 regiments
  • J-7s don’t have long service life, so a lot of J-7 regiments will be retired in the next 10 years. I think the last of J-7s will pretty much be retired from PLAAF by 2025.
  • As J-7s continue to retire in the next 10 years, their old regiments will either be replaced by J-10s or disbanded.
  • The story may change if another fighter type like JF-17 comes into picture

Let’s look at which regiments are currently J-10:
1st division, 2nd regiment replaced J7E 12x2x
24th division, 70th regiment replaced J7E 30x5x
7th division, 18/19th regiment replaced J7 11x8x
3rd division, 8th regiment replaced J7II 10x4x
9th division, 25th regiment replaced J7H 21x0x
2nd division, 5th regiment replaced 10x3x
44th division, 131st regiment replaced 50x5x
From the first group, 1,2,3 have already received J-10s. From the second group, 9 and 44 have received J-10s. From the third group, 7 and 24 have received J-10s.

Now, let’s look at the regiments that are currently J-7 as taken from Scramble’s plaaf orbat. Remember, these are not followed as closely, so their numbers and regiments numbers may not be accurate. These J-7 regiments may or may not still be there. I also saw some J-7 regiments on that orbat that look to no longer exist, so I didn’t list them here.
30th division, 88th regiment J7E 40x1x
21st division, 63rd regiment J7 3xx2x
15th division, 43rd regiment J7C/D 20x6x
17th division, J7II 20x8x
15th division, J7 2xx6x
12th division, 34th regiment J7G 20x3x
31st division, 91th regiment J7II 40x2x
19th division, 56th regiment J7II 31x0x
3rd division, 7th regiment J7E 11x4x
14th division, 40th regiment J7E 21x5x
18th division, 52nd regiment J7II 21x9x
9th division, 24th regiment J7E 20x0x
42nd division, 125th regiment J7 55x3x
27th division, J7 3xx8x
33rd division, J7II 40x4x
44th division, 130th regiment J7 50x5x
6th division, 16th regiment J7 10x7x
37th division, 111th regiment J7I 4xx8x

According to Huitong, here are the regiments still using J-7C/D. 20x6x, 41x1x (so basically 15th and 30th division). We can ignore the second digit in the number, because that could represent the importance of these regiment in the division. Therefore, that digit could easily change upon new conversions.

These are the regiments that received J-7E. 10x2x, 10x4x, 10x5x, 20x0x, 20x5x, 21x5x, 30x2x, 40x1x, 41x8x. (1st, 3rd, 4th, 9th, 14th, 21st, 30th, 37th division) Now, some of these regiments have already been replaced with J-10s. I think J-7Es then get transferred to regiments that are even lower in the pecking order.

These are the regiments that received J-7G. 10x8x, 20x3x, 40x8x, 7th regiment, 12th regiment, 37th regiment. Again, if these regiments get J-10s, their J-7s will likely be transferred to regiments that are lower in the pecking order.

So, who are likely to get the next J-10 regiments?
We’ve already seen pictures from 18th division air base showing J-10s. Now, that most likely implies J-10s were there to exercise with Su-30s. At the same time, we’ve also noticed J-10s arriving at the 9th division base early last year, before the first official transfer of the first batch of 4 J-10s to that division. I read that at least one 9th division pilot actually flew and got trained with J-10 throughout 2009. What that could indicate is that a regiment preparing to receiving J-10s will first get some J-10s from another J-10 regiment so that the top pilots can start training. And then, they can take the lessons from those classes to the rest of the pilots in the regiments. At least that is my assessment from reading some of the official articles and posts from big shrimps regarding J-10 conversion process. If that’s the case then, I think 18th division is close to getting J-10s, because those J-10s are possibly there for that reason. It would also follow the path of other elite plaaf divisions of having both a flanker and J-10 regiment (with the J-10 regiment replacing the old J-7 regiment).

14th, 19th, 33rd all have J-7 regiments that could be converted to J-10 regiments over the next few years. We can say the same about 6th, 12th and 21st division. 15th, 30th and 37th all have J-7 regiments too.

A while ago, I think Rick Kramer had satellite photos indicating 30th division is about to receive a J-10 regiment, so I think that’s high up the list. It’s hard to say exactly which regiments with get J-10s next. PLAAF would probably spread out the assignments so that each military region get their share of 3rd generation fighters. Currently, Shenyang MR has 1 J-10 regiment, Beijing MR will have 2 J-10 regiments (3 if we also include FTTC regiment), Jinan MR has none, Nanjing MR has 1 J-10 regiment, Guangzhou MR has 2 J-10 regiments, Chengdu MR has one and Lanzhou MR has none.

My guess is that since Beijing MR will not get a J-10 regiment for a bit since it just got J-10s for 24th and 7th regiment + August 1st flight demonstration team. That would probably eliminate 15th regiment for now. In Shenyang, 30th and 21st division are both possibility, but I think 30th might have better chance due to Rick’s photos. I think Jinan MR will get a J-10 regiment soon, so that would suggest either 12th or 19th division is getting J-10. Due to their proximity to Taiwan, Guangzhou and Nanjing will probably get quite a few J-10 regiments. Since Guangzhou is in the process of getting its second with 9th division, I think Nanjing is next. That would bring in the possibility of 14th division. Chengdu MR might get more J-10s to counter threats from Vietnam and India. 33rd division already have flanker, so it’s unlikely to get J-10s. That means 6th will be the next division to get it from Chengdu MR. If they follow what they did with 44th division and J-10A, it’s possible that the first J-10B regiments will also be placed in Chengdu MR. Which means, the first J-10B regiment will be in 6th division or 44th division. Finally, Lanzhou MR may or may not get one due to its geographic insignificance. If it does get one, I think it’s more likely to get the longer ranged flanker because of the area that Lanzhou MR covers.

To sum up, we’ve seen three new regiments converted to or in the middle of converting to J-10 recently. I think this is partly due to the order for 122 AL-31FN signed early last year and partly due to FWS-10A’s improved reliability. I think that J-10s will be used to replace most of the J-7 regiments in PLAAF in the next 10 years (unless PLAAF finally decides to purchase JF-17s). These are the regiments I think we need to focus on in the next few years that will receive J-10s.
18th division, 52nd regiment J7II 21x9x
30th division, 88th regiment J7E 40x1x
12th division, 34th regiment J7G 20x3x
14th division, 40th regiment J7E 21x5x
6th division, 16th regiment J7 10x7x

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The decommissioned PLA Railway Engineering Corps. from china-defense-mashup.com

Friday, January 22nd, 2010

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As China unveils the world’s fastest high speed train and its French designed railway terminals. (here), perhaps it is time to look back at PLA’s long forgotten Railway Engineering Corps (REC).The Wuhan TerminalThe REC was commissioned in August 1948 and “civilianized” in 1982 (here) by merged into the Ministry of Railway. In the 1970s, the REC peaked at 15 divisions and a total of 400,000
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The PLA’s Multiple Military Tasks: Prioritizing Combat Operations and Developing MOOTW Capabilities from china-defense-mashup.com

Friday, January 22nd, 2010

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The PLA’s Multiple Military Tasks: Prioritizing Combat Operations and Developing MOOTW CapabilitiesPublication: China Brief Volume: 10 Issue: 2January 21, 2010 02:42 PM Age: 2 hrsCategory: China Brief, Home Page, Foreign Policy, Military/Security, China and the Asia-PacificBy: Michael S. Chase, Kristen Gunnesshttp://www.jamestown.org/programs/chinabrief/single/?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=35931&tx_ttnews[
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China launches third orbiter for indigenous global satellite navigation system from china-defense-mashup.com

Thursday, January 21st, 2010

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Jan. 17 (China Military News cited from Xinhua) — China took one step forward in its ambition to build an independent global navigation network capable of rivaling foreign congeneric systems with the successful launch of a new orbiter into space early Sunday morning.

Boosted by a Long-March-3III carrier rocket into a geostationary orbit from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center, it was the third orbiter China has launched for the network, also known as Beidou, or COMPASS system.

It will join another two already in orbits to form a network which will eventually have a total of 35 satellites, capable of providing global navigation service to users around the world around 2020.

The new orbiter and the carrier rocket were researched and developed by Chinese Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation and Chinese Academy of Carrier Rocket Technology respectively.

The network will have five satellites in geostationary orbit and another 30 in non-geostationary orbits, according to a plan for the COMPASS system.

According to the plan, the system will firstly provide navigation, time signal and short message services in the Asia and Pacific region around 2012.

The COMPASS system will provide both open and authorized services, according to China’s satellite navigation project center.

The open service will be free of charge for the system’s users within service area with a resolution of 10 meters for positioning, an accuracy of 10 nanosecond for time signal and an accuracy of 0.2 meter per second for speed measurement.

The authorized service will provide more accurate services for authorized users.

China started to build up its own satellite navigation system to break its dependence on the U.S. Global Positioning System (GPS) in 2000 when it sent two orbiters as a double-satellite experimental positioning system, known as the Beidou system.

The Beidou system, China’s first-generation satellite navigation and positioning network, made the country the third in the world after the U.S. and Russia to have an independent satellite navigation system.

The original Beidou system provide regional service for telecom, transport and disaster relief within the country, and has played important roles especially in the Beijing Olympics and relief work for the 8.0-magnitude Wenchuan earthquake in May 2008.

The country started to upgrade the Beidou into the second-generation system by launching two new orbiters into space in 2007 and 2009 respectively.

A statement from the COMPASS system’s special management office said that China will make its own global navigation system compatible and interoperable with other international competitors, including the U.S. GPS system, the EU’s Galileo Positioning Systemand Russia’s Global Navigation Satellite System (GLONASS).

The compatibility and interoperability, under the framework of the International Committee on Global Navigation Satellite Systems(ICG) and International Telecommunication Union (ITU), will make all users benefit from the progress of the satellite navigation’s development, it said.

China is willing to cooperate with other countries to improve the COMPASS system’s compatibility and interoperability with other satellite navigation systems and promote an all-round application of the system’s services, the statement said.

Sun Jiadong, an academician with the Chinese Academy of Sciences and the COMPASS system’s chief designer, told Xinhua after the third orbiter’s launch that the system would play a major role in providing services for national security, environment, traffic, logistics and other economic activities.

“There is nothing could not be accomplished by the COMPASS system,” said the 80-year-old Sun at the launch center, who was crowned China’s top science and technology award by President Hu Jintao last week.

The Beidou experimental system with two satellites in geostationary orbit completed in 2000 was the first successful stage which helped Chinese scientists gain lots of experience in constructing the COMPASS system, Sun said.

According to him, the blueprint to build China’s own global navigation satellite system in three stages was initiated in the 1980s and 1990s.

“The successful launch of the COMPASS system’s third orbiter today marked a substantial step for the system to function within the Asia Pacific region by 2012 as the second stage,” he said.

With promising application in social and economic activities, the COMPASS system will also boost the development of China’s information technology, the chief designer said.

“In a few years, people would find some new application of the COMPASS system that they have never imagined before.”

With the steady progress to add launch satellites into space, the development of ground-based supporting facilities and equipment to explore the system’s application is comparatively limited and should be considered as priority, the space expert said.

Civilian application of the U.S. GPS system in China is limited. Only a few companies sell GPS maps for portable or vehicle-mounted positioning and navigation devices.

Sun proposed that the government should issue regulations and policies to encourage more Chinese enterprises to participate in the development of the system’s application chain so as to make maximum possible use of those satellites.

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First photo of the recently ordered Ka-28 in PLAN color from china-defense-mashup.com

Thursday, January 21st, 2010

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The first of the 10 Ka-28 ordered by the PLAN on October 11th 2009 has arrived (here)(here). Judging from the pennant number of 9234, this new Ka-28 has been assigned to PLAN’s existing Ka-28 unit: the 4th Naval Independent Aviation Regiment. Since there was no sign of a new unit being created to accommodate this new addition, it can be assumed that the new birds would augment the existing
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PLA Air Force pushes forward logistics training reform from china-defense-mashup.com

Wednesday, January 20th, 2010

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Here is a follow-up to the 15th ABC mobility air assault military exercise from the PLA Daily. As a general rule, greater military capability requires even greater investment in logistics.Even the PLA Daily, a Chinese government mouthpiece, remembers the old military maxim — Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics.PLA Air Force pushes forward logistics training reformhttp://
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China’s Mystery Spacelab from spacedaily.com

Wednesday, January 20th, 2010

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Sydney, Australia (SPX) Jan 20, 2010 –
We could be less than a year away from the launch of Tiangong-1, China’s first space laboratory. We’ve been expecting this launch for years, but relatively little is still known about this mission.
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15th Airborne Corps (ABC) is testing their vertical envelopment/air mobility capability from china-defense-mashup.com

Tuesday, January 19th, 2010

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The 15th ABC’s organic helicopter regiment was first revealed during the 2008 Sichuan earthquake rescue work and then by a high profile fly-by during the 60th national day celebration.It is now time for the 15th to test its newly found air mobility assault capability in a large military exercise. The advantage of air mobile assault over airdrop are many: ranging from entire unit delivery in one
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China launches orbiter for navigation system: state media from spacedaily.com

Tuesday, January 19th, 2010

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Beijing (AFP) Jan 17, 2010 – China launched an orbiter into space early Sunday, the latest stage in the development of its own satellite navigation system, state media said.
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China to send third navigation satellite into orbit from china-defense-mashup.com

Tuesday, January 19th, 2010

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Jan. 17 (China Military News cited from Xinhua) — China took one step forward in its ambition to build an independent global navigation network capable of rivaling foreign congeneric systems with the successful launch of a new orbiter into space early Sunday morning.

Boosted by a Long-March-3III carrier rocket into a geostationary orbit from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center, it was the third orbiter China has launched for the network, also known as Beidou, or COMPASS system.

It will join another two already in orbits to form a network which will eventually have a total of 35 satellites, capable of providing global navigation service to users around the world around 2020.

The new orbiter and the carrier rocket were researched and developed by Chinese Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation and Chinese Academy of Carrier Rocket Technology respectively.

The network will have five satellites in geostationary orbit and another 30 in non-geostationary orbits, according to a plan for the COMPASS system.

According to the plan, the system will firstly provide navigation, time signal and short message services in the Asia and Pacific region around 2012.

The COMPASS system will provide both open and authorized services, according to China’s satellite navigation project center.

The open service will be free of charge for the system’s users within service area with a resolution of 10 meters for positioning, an accuracy of 10 nanosecond for time signal and an accuracy of 0.2 meter per second for speed measurement.

The authorized service will provide more accurate services for authorized users.

China started to build up its own satellite navigation system to break its dependence on the U.S. Global Positioning System (GPS) in 2000 when it sent two orbiters as a double-satellite experimental positioning system, known as the Beidou system.

The Beidou system, China’s first-generation satellite navigation and positioning network, made the country the third in the world after the U.S. and Russia to have an independent satellite navigation system.

The original Beidou system provide regional service for telecom, transport and disaster relief within the country, and has played important roles especially in the Beijing Olympics and relief work for the 8.0-magnitude Wenchuan earthquake in May 2008.

The country started to upgrade the Beidou into the second-generation system by launching two new orbiters into space in 2007 and 2009 respectively.

A statement from the COMPASS system’s special management office said that China will make its own global navigation system compatible and interoperable with other international competitors, including the U.S. GPS system, the EU’s Galileo Positioning Systemand Russia’s Global Navigation Satellite System (GLONASS).

The compatibility and interoperability, under the framework of the International Committee on Global Navigation Satellite Systems(ICG) and International Telecommunication Union (ITU), will make all users benefit from the progress of the satellite navigation’s development, it said.

China is willing to cooperate with other countries to improve the COMPASS system’s compatibility and interoperability with other satellite navigation systems and promote an all-round application of the system’s services, the statement said.

Sun Jiadong, an academician with the Chinese Academy of Sciences and the COMPASS system’s chief designer, told Xinhua after the third orbiter’s launch that the system would play a major role in providing services for national security, environment, traffic, logistics and other economic activities.

“There is nothing could not be accomplished by the COMPASS system,” said the 80-year-old Sun at the launch center, who was crowned China’s top science and technology award by President Hu Jintao last week.

The Beidou experimental system with two satellites in geostationary orbit completed in 2000 was the first successful stage which helped Chinese scientists gain lots of experience in constructing the COMPASS system, Sun said.

According to him, the blueprint to build China’s own global navigation satellite system in three stages was initiated in the 1980s and 1990s.

“The successful launch of the COMPASS system’s third orbiter today marked a substantial step for the system to function within the Asia Pacific region by 2012 as the second stage,” he said.

With promising application in social and economic activities, the COMPASS system will also boost the development of China’s information technology, the chief designer said.

“In a few years, people would find some new application of the COMPASS system that they have never imagined before.”

With the steady progress to add launch satellites into space, the development of ground-based supporting facilities and equipment to explore the system’s application is comparatively limited and should be considered as priority, the space expert said.

Civilian application of the U.S. GPS system in China is limited. Only a few companies sell GPS maps for portable or vehicle-mounted positioning and navigation devices.

Sun proposed that the government should issue regulations and policies to encourage more Chinese enterprises to participate in the development of the system’s application chain so as to make maximum possible use of those satellites.

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Know your Yun-7 from china-defense-mashup.com

Tuesday, January 19th, 2010

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Together with other Chinese civilian aviation products, the Y-7 Turboprop Transport Aircraft has an extensive military service history with both the PLAAF and the PLAN-AF. This light tactical transport was developed by the Xian Aircraft Industry Company (XAC) in 1966 based on the Soviet An-24, with maiden flight conducted on 1970.By 2006 all the original Y-7s has been withdrawn from civilian
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China launches third Beidou navigation satellite from chinesemil.blogspot.com

Monday, January 18th, 2010

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XICHANG: China took one step forward in its ambition to build an independent global navigation network capable of rivaling foreign congeneric systems with the successful launch of a new orbiter into space early Sunday morning.


China launches orbiter for navigation system
The Long-March-3III carrier rocket lifts off from the launch pad at Xichang Satellite Launch Center, Jan 17, 2010.

Boosted by a Long-March-3III carrier rocket into a geostationary orbit from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center, it was the third orbiter China has launched for the network, also known as Beidou, or COMPASS system.

It will join another two already in orbits to form a network which will eventually have a total of 35 satellites, capable of providing global navigation service to users around the world around 2020.

The new orbiter and the carrier rocket were researched and developed by Chinese Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation and Chinese Academy of Carrier Rocket Technology respectively.

The network will have five satellites in geostationary orbit and another 30 in non-geostationary orbits, according to a plan for the COMPASS system.

According to the plan, the system will firstly provide navigation, time signal and short message services in the Asia and Pacific region around 2012.

The COMPASS system will provide both open and authorized services, according to China’s satellite navigation project center.

The open service will be free of charge for the system’s users within service area with a resolution of 10 meters for positioning, an accuracy of 10 nanosecond for time signal and an accuracy of 0.2 meter per second for speed measurement.

The authorized service will provide more accurate services for authorized users.

China started to build up its own satellite navigation system to break its dependence on the US Global Positioning System (GPS) in 2000 when it sent two orbiters as a double-satellite experimental positioning system, known as the Beidou system.

The Beidou system, China’s first-generation satellite navigation and positioning network, made the country the third in the world after the US and Russia to have an independent satellite navigation system.

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TOP HEADLINES- yahoo.com

Monday, January 18th, 2010

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Pakistan, China to enhance military cooperation (MalaysiaNews.net)
us.rd.yahoo.com says: Islamabad, Jan 17 (IANS) Pakistan and China have inked an agreement for further strengthening defence production, staging joint military exercises and training military officers.

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8 Chinese peacekeepers buried in Haiti confirmed dead from china-defense-mashup.com

Sunday, January 17th, 2010

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(Xinhua)Updated: 2010-01-17 10:47http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-01/17/content_9331926.htmChinese rescuers mourn as bodies of buried Chinese peacekeepers in Haiti are retrieved from ruins, in Port-au-Prince on January 16, 2010. [Photo/Xinhua]BEIJING: The bodies of all eight Chinese police officers buried under a collapsed building in the Haiti quake had been found as of early Sunday
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The World at 2:10 pmGoogle Alerts – china chinese military OR weapon – from google.com

Sunday, January 17th, 2010

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_ CHINA-MR GAY CHINA _ Police shut down what would have been China's first gay pageant an hour before it was to begin, underscoring the lingering

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AP Top News at 5:35 am ESTGoogle Alerts – china chinese military OR weapon – from google.com

Sunday, January 17th, 2010

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Interview: Yang Guoxiang — One of China’s top test pilots recalls the H-Bomb that almost backfired. from china-defense-mashup.com

Saturday, January 16th, 2010

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http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/70377662.htmlInterview: Yang GuoxiangOne of China’s top test pilots recalls the H-Bomb that almost backfired.* By Bob Bergin* Air & Space Magazine, January 01, 2010When your assignment is to drop a live nuclear bomb, you’d better not return to base with it. But that’s just what happened in 1971 to Yang Guoxiang, a pilot with the People’s Liberation
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Latest photo of Varyag’s island. from china-defense-mashup.com

Saturday, January 16th, 2010

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Looking at this photo* of Vargag’s remodeled island — it seems to share a great deal of similarity with Type052C destroyer’s phased array radar and radar mast arrangements. Therefore, it would not be a complete surprise to see a multifunction active phased array radar mounted on those “open slots” later.Type H/LJG-348 Phased Array Radar’s slots and radar mast on the Type 052C destroyer during
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EDITORIALS OF THE TIMESGoogle Alerts – china chinese military OR weapon – from google.com

Saturday, January 16th, 2010

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Google has taken a bold stand by saying that it would stop cooperating with China's online censorship and may pull out of the country entirely.

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